1.
Name: Susan Wylie Wilson, pen name Suzana Wylie
2.
Age: 64
3.
Where are you from: I was born and raised in
Tupelo, MS, but as an adult have lived in Jackson, MS, extreme northern Maine,
Biloxi, MS, western New York, the Florida panhandle, southern middle Tennessee,
Alabama, and now Colorado.
4.
A little about yourself (i.e. your education –
Family life etc.): I’m the oldest of two, born to a very dysfunctional family.
There was never a time when my parents were happy as a couple, and when I was
in my early teens, their marriage finally (hallelujah) ended. I’ve always had
an interest in science and languages, and my teenage dream was to go to work
for NASA as an exobiologist (though the term didn’t exist at the time).
Instead, I graduated from high school with four years of Spanish, two of French
and two of Latin, and majored in French, before discovering the delights of
Sociology. Much later, I got a Master’s in Computer Information Systems.
5.
Tell us your latest news?: The third book in the
Fallow Moon series is in edits at the moment, and will be released fairly soon,
I hope. Another book, not in the same series, is being spit-polished for my
publisher, and may actually be out sooner.
6.
When and why did you begin writing? I’ve been
writing since I figured out which end of the pencil to lick, as I tell people.
I don’t remember a time when I didn’t make up stories, when I didn’t write
poems.
7.
When did you first consider yourself a writer?
That’s a tough one. Reading a poem for Eudora Welty when I was in college was a
big deal, but again, I’ve never not written, so it’s hard to pinpoint. Selling
my first piece (a non-fiction essay for a magazine) was perhaps the first time
I considered myself a professional.
8.
What inspired you to write your first book? I’m
going to confine this to my first completed book, since there are many that I
began to write and didn’t finish for one reason or another (usually having to
do with my inner editor). I wanted to create a world as rich and full of depth
as Tolkien, though I had no illusions that I would be as good as he was. I
wanted the symbolism, the deeper meaning that’s there if you look for it, the
background of long history, and I wanted to do this in a world that didn’t
include elves and hobbits and wizards. That first completed book then grew into
a seven-volume epic fantasy saga, more than a million and a half words, written
over eight months. It’s not available, since it needs a heavy rewrite, probably
losing at least a quarter of its length. If you want to talk about the first
book I finished that’s published, the inspiration is a bit different. I wanted
to write a love story, but with the main characters two men rather than a man
and a woman. There’s a dynamic in the relationship between two men that simply
isn’t present with a man and a woman, and that dynamic fascinates me. Add to
that the supernatural element-one
of the main characters is a vampire-and
it becomes even more interesting. It’s important for the world to see that two
men (or two women) can fall in love and have the same desires for a life
together that society is more used to seeing between a man and a woman. Men
loving men, or women loving women, is perfectly normal and natural (though not
the common and expected thing), and presenting those relationships in a
positive light rather than the derisive mockery LGBTQ characters are often
portrayed with helps to build understanding between the straight community and
the LGBTQ community, and by giving LGBTQ young people positive role models, can
actually and literally save lives.
9.
Do You have a specific writing style: Not really. Different books require different
voices and styles, and poetry even more of a different style and voice. Unless
I have a character who speaks that way, I tend to avoid flowery phrases, though
I’ve been told my prose is often poetic.
10.
How did you come up with the title? Though I
hate to admit it, Bittermoon was on a list of titles ‘for adoption’ in a
National Novel Writing Month Forum. The sequel, Stygian Moon, is a very dark
book, and ‘stygian’ refers to the river Styx which must be crossed by the newly
dead in order to reach the underworld, and to darkness itself, so it seemed
appropriate for a dark novel about a newly-turned vampire as he crosses into
the life of a nightwalker. Fallow Moon (the third book and the series title)
refers to a field which isn’t planted, but allowed to grow anything at all, to
‘rest’ the land. The relationships between the main characters haven’t been
tended or cultivated, and many unwelcome things have grown up in the meantime.
11.
Is there a message in your novel that you want
readers to grasp? Other than the universality of love, the fact that there is
more to the relationships between two men than simple the rut of sex, not
really. Not in those books. Raveneye, the one not in the series, does have an
underlying spirituality, as do the Sentinel Chronicles (the seven-volume saga).
12.
How much of the book is realistic? The dynamics
between the characters are realistic, and the settings are taken from actual
places. Other than that, not much. After all, the characters are vampires.
13.
Are experiences based on someone you know OR
events in your own life? Only very loosely. Once we’re past a certain age, all
of us experience grief and betrayal, love and longing, and those experiences
carry over into my writing, but more specific than that? Not in Fallow Moon.
Raveneye, a bit more so, since there is the spiritual dimension, and a bit of
Native American-type ritual practice.
14.
What books have most influenced your life most?
There are many. Tolkien, obviously. Rex Stout’s Nero Wolfe mysteries. Asimov,
Heinlein, Niven – many science fiction books. The Disappearance, by Phillip
Wylie. The “Watch” novels from Sir Terry Pratchett’s Discworld series.
Everything written by Nya Rawlyns and Erin O’Quinn.
15.
If you had to choose, which writer would you
consider a mentor? It would be a tie between Nya Rawlyns and Erin O’Quinn. Both
have helped me tremendously, encouraging me when I needed it, banging me over
the head with a large club when I needed that, and demanding that what I send
into the world be the very best I have to give at that point in time.
16.
What book are you reading now? There’s never
just one. I’m on a Terry Pratchett kick at the moment, and have just finished
“The Last Hero” (first read) and am re-reading “Night Watch.” I’m also
re-reading Nya Rawlyns’ “The Wrong Side of Right.”
17.
Are there any new authors that have grasped your
interest? There are several ‘lit sisters’ at my publishing house whose work I’m
watching carefully, including an emerging writer, Rebecca Poole, who is also my
cover artist.
18.
What are your current projects? Revising and
editing Fallow Moon, polishing Raveneye. Raveneye is the story of a Native
American/Latino gay man who has a raven as his spiritual guide, an assassin
with origins in the Eastern Block nations who believes he’s straight, and a
transgender woman who helps these very different men to form a relationship.
There are a few books on simmer, including “Price of Admission”, a novel about
a prison warden who entraps vampires and uses them in arena-style executions,
“One Soul Between Us” the starting point of which is a kind of reverse beauty
and the beast tale, and a possible collaboration with Nya Rawlyns, “Split
Infinities.”
19.
Name one entity that you feel supported you
outside of family members? Again, that’s a tie, this time 3-way. Nya Rawlyns,
Erin O’Quinn, and Rebecca Poole.
20.
Do you see writing as a career? Hmmmm. Possibly.
The hesitation comes from the fact that careers are often 9-5 type things, left
behind when leaving the office, and retired from after a number of years. I
can’t see a time when I stop writing. It’s not exactly a career, though I am
working at making a living from writing. It is simply who and what I am, and in
that sense, no, it’s not a career.
21.
If you had to do it all over again, would you
change anything in your latest book? Of course. Writing—and life—are learning
experiences and nothing I did at any time in the past would be repeated exactly
if redone today.
22.
Do you recall how your interest in writing
originated? I really don’t. Once I realized that those pressed sheets of dead
tree that were corralled between pieces of buckram-covered binder’s board
contained worlds, places to go, things to see, people to meet, people to be, I
knew that part of me would always be involved in exploring and creating those
worlds.
23.
Can you share a little of your current work with
us?
An excerpt from Fallow Moon,
written in first person, from Leo Ruggeri Glendubh’s point of view:
It was supposed to be, I thought, a chance for us to be away from the
High Court, for the first time in nearly two years. A chance to relax without
the tension and the constant political bullshit that had plagued us since Kesan
Glendubh and I reconciled. Saying that all of that had been a strain on our
marriage was such an understatement that I couldn’t even get away with saying
it to myself. It was far more than a strain.
Or maybe it was far less of a marriage.
I’d finally given in to Kesan’s near-constant pressure, and some
pressures of my own, and stepped down as Peter Marsden’s Vice Chancellor. Kesan
was older, stronger, and much more inclined to play those kinds of coercion
games than I was or would ever be. He’d had enough practice to be good at it, especially
with me. It wasn’t the first time I’d given in to his pressure. It hadn’t been
my idea to marry in the first place, the legal pas de deux, and rings
and vows. I hadn’t thought we needed that. But he’d wanted it, and somehow he’d
managed to drag me to London for a long weekend and quickie wedding not long
after we’d reconciled, while we were still in the ‘look, shiny’ phase. And then
there’d been the whole Vampyr ‘eternity’ pledge at Court he’d also insisted on.
Two years later and I was wishing I’d had the cojones to resist. We
loved each other, yes. But happy? No.
It’s never just one thing when a relationship between two people goes
wrong. It hadn’t been easy for me at Court. Besides the constant strain of
working on the Alliance between Vampyr and Varulv, the werewolves, there were
other tensions. Peter had been setting in place the planned restructuring of
the American Chancery to more closely align it with the European Court, and
though he didn’t make this obvious, vice versa. That left it to me and to the
Alpha Varulv to push forward the Alliance. While I was Vice, we’d often
traveled to various Vampyr clans and Varulv packs, putting the need for the
Alliance to them bluntly: Alliance or both races fade and die. It was a touchy
situation, since it involved breeding hybrids and we had to overcome
centuries—maybe millennia—of prejudice, ill-will, and feuds. It hadn’t been
easy, but constant work had a good number of packs and clans playing footsie
with us. The ones who weren’t? Yeah, they were a problem, but there were fewer
of them as time wore on.
Or maybe their opposition had become less overt.
The Alpha, Brindle Demon by name and Marquis by rank, was Peter’s
bedmate, and that fact both helped and hurt the Alliance. There are homophobes
in both races, though not nearly as many as among humans. Brin had done his
part, made his contribution, as Alpha, and the first hybrid would be born in a
few months. Reports were that everything was going well with the pregnancy.
That didn’t mean the work on the Alliance had gotten easy.
In some horror and adventure movies, there’s a room where the minor good
guys are trapped and, to the tune of maniacal laughter, the walls move in, or
the floor and ceiling decide to kiss and make up. You have to watch while the
crew try, and fail, to stop the inevitable, until the pressure is so immense
the soundtrack becomes the crispy rice cereal of bones, with snaps, crackles
and pops layered over the screams. That’s what the last two years had been for
me.
Sometimes in the movies, one of the gang would escape. It wasn’t
happening in this scenario. I remembered the movies where the major good guy
would pull a last minute rescue, yanking the pretty girl to safety. I wasn’t
exactly a pretty girl—too much dick for that—but I knew if someone ever wrote
the Script Starring Me who the major good guy would be. This appeared to be
improv, though, and my good guy wouldn’t yank me out unless I was already more
than half out in the first place, no matter how much I wished for just that. He’s
honorable, that good guy. He has to be as Alpha, or the whole thing falls
apart.
Like my marriage.
Brin and I managed to keep a lid on the doing, though not on the wanting
to do, and the fact that I could and would deny myself—and Brin, an inner voice
prompted—had been enough to keep the marriage going for a while. But the
tick-tick of the long night hours had marked the passing of other things. In
the absences, the turned shoulder, the cold sheets, it was plain that there was
something amiss with Kesan. Something he wouldn’t talk about.
Kesan wheedled, set verbal traps, flung open the trenchcoat he wore over
his temper, night after night. He pressured me to leave the Court, to go with
him to Scotland, and finally I felt like I could walk away. I could leave our
work on the Alliance in decent shape for Brin and Peter to take care of when
they weren’t taking care of each other in bed. That was the other reason,
besides my marriage, I’d stayed out of Brin’s bed, the fact that his lover was
my boss, and leader of all the Vampyr.
Now Kesan and I were at his ancestral home in Argyll, and though I
wasn’t exactly thrilled to be there, I had to admit it was beautiful by
moonlight. I shoved down the ‘wonder what Brin would think of it’ bit, and went
back to looking around. There was less of the feel of manicured
seed-and-roll-for-centuries that English estates seem to have. It was tended
carefully but hadn’t been scraped down to bedrock and beaten into submission as
a lawn. There was contour to the land, even small rocky outcroppings here and
there along the slope upward to the site of the manor itself. I could hear a
small stream out of sight but nearby. The estate was very peaceful, and exactly
what he thought we needed. He hoped that it would be a good setting for putting
the shine back on what we had had between us. I stomped hard on the mental
raised eyebrow over my thinking ‘had had,’ putting our marriage in the past.
Slip of the tongue. Or brain. I told myself in hopes I would believe it that it
meant nothing.
But maybe I wanted it to mean something.
An excerpt from Raveneye, written in third person:
“Hey, Teo, your 2 o’clock’s here, and
dayyum.”
“Gracias, chica.” Teo grinned at the lanky
blonde standing at the doorway to the candlelit massage room. “I’m ready.”
“Uh, no, Teo, I don’t think you are. Wait
till you see this one.”
“Just show…” Teo glanced at the appointment
sheet, “…Mr. Sokolov in, Edie.”
“That won’t be necessary,” a deep voice
sounded from behind Edie. “I’m already in.” The man eased his way past her.
Edie was right. This guy merited a ‘dayyum.’
Not a body-builder, but his fitness was obvious in the long lean lines of his
torso, tapering from invitingly broad shoulders to slender hips. High
cheekbones, different than Teo’s own, but still pronounced. The man’s eyes were
a deep tawny brown, with flecks of gold scattered through the irises, and Teo
was sure they could read him as if he were a—not even a book. Maybe a
children’s book. Few words, but lots of simple lines and interesting shapes and
colors.
“Dusan Sokolov. They didn’t tell me your name
when I made the arrangements.” His accent was subtle, but it was there. Even
without the name, the voice would have confirmed one of the Eastern Bloc
nations as his home. A hint of a smile tugged at the corners of the man’s wide
mouth. His grip as they shook hands was firm, his hand an odd mix of soft and
rough, as if he worked with his hands, but also took pains to care for them.
“I apologize, Mr. Sokolov. I’m Mateo Velasco,
but everyone calls me ‘Teo’, sir.”
“Teo. Where do I undress?”
“Here is fine, Mr. Sokolov. I’ll step out to
give you some privacy. I’ll knock after a few minutes.” Teo headed for the
door.
“All right.”
Teo closed the door behind him and leaned
heavily against it. Edie looked over at him from the reception area and winked.
“Told you,” she mouthed.
“Where’s his jacket?” Teo pushed away from
the door and looked around for the file folder that should have been on the
reception counter.
“Well, that’s the thing. There’s not one.
Management said not to worry about it.” Edie shrugged. “Some important person
on the down-low, I figure. Can’t be his real name, so I didn’t google him.”
Teo nodded. “It’s not that unusual. Many of
our guests don’t want it known they’re gay, after all.”
Edie grinned. “You’ve kneaded some famous
backsides, all right. And some whose congregations would give a lot to know
about it.”
“I don’t like that look, Edie.”
“Teo, you know I’m not going to jeopardize
these cushy digs. Living at a resort? Not gonna risk losing that. It’s just
that little devil in me, enjoying thinking about it.”
“Is that the bit that hasn’t had the surgery
yet?” Others might gossip about where she was in the transition process, but
Teo saw no point in changing the way they interacted simply because Edie was no
longer Ed.
“Beast!”
“You’re into fur?”
Edie grinned and pantomimed throwing a pen at
him. “If I didn’t think you’d be busy later…”
“Too much woman for me, girl.”
“What’s a lady have to do to find something
to stick her dick in around here?”
“Not a question I’ve ever needed the answer
to.” He brought his mental shutters down. Edie was a friend, a work-friend, but
he needed the solitude inside his own head to get himself under control before
working on Sokolov, or he’d be too close to a line he would not cross. Massage
wasn’t about sex. It never had been, and never would be. Not for Teo. If that’s
what his clients wanted, they left with blue balls. What happened in the
massage room was sacred, and he wouldn’t profane it with the sweaty slapping of
flesh on flesh. If they were attractive, and offered, he might meet them later.
But never in the room, and never, ever for money. I’m not a whore, he
repeated to himself. I’m not. But Raveneye, my friend, sometimes I wish I
were.
In the space between his ears, a raven
croaked. An avian chuckle, perhaps. It could be hard to know, unless they were—
The door opened. “Teo.”
Edie peered around him, but Teo carefully
blocked her view. Not that there was one. When he stepped into the room, his
client was already sitting on the table, draw sheet across his lap. Sokolov
moved fast. Maybe there was more than his obvious attractiveness about this
client that would require careful handling.
Teo led Sokolov through the pre-massage
questions about temperature, lighting and music preferences, about areas that
needed particular work. They were questions he asked every client. Comfort and
relaxation were key, after all, and while he was especially gifted at detecting
trouble areas before touching the client, it was good practice to know where
they thought the problems were, even if they were wildly wrong. How anyone
could fail to recognize the body as a whole that works as a whole was beyond
Teo. It was obvious, just as it was obvious the spirit world is a whole and
works as a whole. But many couldn’t see that either.
The last question was always, “What do you
hope to gain from massage?” Sometimes the client would mention sex at this
point, or sometimes that would come later as he worked certain areas. Most
often, sex wasn’t mentioned at all.
Sokolov’s answers had been terse. Not rude,
simply direct. Like Teo’s own nature, though he had learned early to wear what
he called his ‘robe of sociable’ at work. The answer to this question wasn’t
exactly terse.
“You need to know something, Teo. I’m
straight. I have no interest in sex with a man. None. And that’s not going to
change.”
“And yet you’re staying at Aguajero Azul, a
gay resort.”
“This is a good area to withdraw and
recharge, so it makes no difference. I’m straight. Do you understand that?”
“Certainly. It’s unusual, but I have no
trouble understanding either the need to recharge or that you don’t want sex
with me.”
“There is a line with this massage, Teo. If
you cross it, you will regret it.”
“Never, Mr. Sokolov. I’ve never crossed that line in this holy place—the
massage room.”
24.
Is there anything you find particularly
challenging in your writing? Making sure that each character has a distinctive
voice and that they speak in and from that voice. Avoiding the cardboard
cut-out syndrome with characters I don’t like very much.
25.
Who is your favorite author and what is it that
really strikes you about their work? Oh, that’s impossible. My favorites vary
from time to time. There are some who are never off that list, though their
places may swap around some. Pratchett, for the breadth of his imagination, his
humor, and the depth that’s there if people stop to look for it. Rawlyns, for
the essential reality of her work, her no-pulled-punches approach to how she
treats her characters, and the stark beauty of her words, like the bare granite
mountains covered in snow that pierce the abode of the gods and lift us there
for a time. Erin O’Quinn, for the joy in her work, the hope that her characters
manage to find in the midst of adversity, and the dead-accurate historical
research that allows her not simply to create a world but to convince us of its
reality and our own places in it.
26.
Do you have to travel much concerning your
book(s)? Have to? No. My life is, however, shaped around travel, since my
family is scattered far and wide. I write on airplanes (earbuds are wonderful
things and a notebook and pen can be used even during takeoff and landing), and
when my travels are cross-country in a car, I take my digital voice recorder
and talk through plots, or knotty problems, or ask my characters questions.
27.
Who designed the covers? Rebecca Poole of
Dreams2media. She’s amazing and incredibly easy to work with. With Bittermoon,
there was a bit of back and forth, communicating what I wanted and locating
models and poses she could use, but once that was done, and for the others,
I’ve just said, “here’s the model I want to use, go forth and do magic” and she
does, every single time.
28.
What was the hardest part of writing your book?
SPOILER: letting a main character die, leaving the other in despair and grief.
29.
Did you learn anything from writing your book
and what was it? Indeed. I learned a lot about my writing process, and many
fiddly bits about writing that have changed over the years (like the fact that
an ellipsis is no longer followed by a period when it comes at the end of a
sentence), and a great deal about how I react to criticism and suggestions, not
all of it pretty. I know me a lot better, and that means I can know my guys a
lot better, too.
30.
Do you have any advice for other writers? Learn
the difference between an attempt to help you improve (and you will always have
things that need improving) and criticism. Listen to the people who want you to
be the best you can be. Don’t burn your bridges behind you. Get people other
than your family and friends to beta read and listen to what they say. Don’t
stop writing, but don’t publish something the moment you put that last period
at the end of the last sentence. Never publish something, even in your blog,
that’s not your best work. Realize that it is
work, and be willing to do the hard bits as well as the fun stuff.
31.
Do you have anything specific that you want to
say to your readers? Thank you! Please feel free to communicate directly with
me about what you did and didn’t like. I may not agree with you, but I will
listen to what you say.
32.
Do you remember the first book you read? No, I
don’t. I was reading by the time I was 4 and that was a long time ago.
33.
What makes you laugh/cry? Almost anything can
make me do either. Snow falling. Cats purring. The smiles of children. Danny
Kaye movies. Pike’s Peak in the pink light of dawn. On the other hand, the
blindness of societies and individuals who don’t realize that we’re all the
same inside. The fact that in the land of plenty, there are people who stand in
the snow at my grocery store parking lot with signs that say, “homeless, father
of three, please help me,” and burst into unbelieving tears when I hand them a
twenty dollar bill. The lack of simple courtesy and caring.
34.
Is there one person past or present you would
like to meet and why? John Lennon. Why? Because JOHN LENNON!
35.
What do you want written on your headstone and
why? I don’t want a headstone. I want someone to stick an apple in my mouth,
sew me up in a gunny sack, toss me in a hole in the lower 40 with enough of a
marker so Farmer Bill doesn’t plow me up, and let me grow apples for my
great-great-grandchildren. That’s illegal in most states, so perhaps something
like, “Love is all she needed.”
36.
Other than writing do you have any hobbies? I
knit, play piano, dabble in painting, am a hobbyist book-binder.
37.
What TV shows/films do you enjoy watching? TV
shows? Not many. I don’t watch TV much. I used to watch Star Trek (TOS, TNG),
CSI, NCIS. Discovery channel stuff. Mostly these days, football. Films? Again,
not much. I enjoy the classics, and there are some current movies I’ve enjoyed,
like Matrix, Avatar, a few others. I think that Schindler’s List and The Help
should be required viewing for entry into the human race.
38.
What are your Favorite Foods/Colors/Music?
Chinese, Thai, Mexican, Indian, love ‘em all. Colors? Purples and blues. I’m
not a fan of yellow or orange. Music? Oh, geez. Beethoven, The Legendary Pink
Dots, Trans Siberian Orchestra, Mozart, Gershwin, Mose Allison, Dave Brubeck,
Beatles, McCartney, Lennon, Pavarotti, Lisa Gerrard (of Dead Can Dance),
Audiomachine, Hans Zimmer… and many more.
39.
If you were not a writer what else would you
like to have done? Leave this planet and stand on another world. Find meaning
in the heartbeat of a nebula. Learn from the Dalai Lama. Medical research. Sit
at the feet of Steven Hawking. Paint.
40.
Do you have a blog/website? If so what is it? I have two, actually. This one http://suzanawylie.com has mostly poems, with
a bit of non-fiction and short fiction. This one http://heartbreakroad.com I use to post
bits of my current WiPs, sometimes public, but sometimes not.
Suzana, you are a witch-woman of a wonderful writer. Everything you say has the ring of a wordsmith. I really enjoyed this interview ... even if it IS all in caps, which makes my old eyes sting and tear-up. Or maybe those tears are for the praise you've given me, quite undeserved.
ReplyDeleteI wish you absolute success in everything. And yes, I too want to end up in a galaxy far, far away sitting at the feet of Steven Hawking. Much love to you ~Erin O'Quinn